Realmyst For Mac
Jun 14, 2012 I bought the original Myst for the Mac back when it was first released. At the time the imagery was amazing with a great sound track and a cleaver use of Sound, Video, and puzzles. I have to admit I was a fan of the whole story line and bought the first two books.
RealMyst: Masterpiece Edition is a beautifully updated version of realMYST for today’s Mac computers – celebrating the 20th anniversary of Myst! The models and textures have been reconstructed to provide an amazing graphical experience. The environments have been enhanced to provide dynamic water, weather, lighting, foliage, focus, and more.
The interface has been redesigned to provide an enjoyable way to explore for both novices and gamers. RealMyst: Masterpiece Edition – this is not your father’s Myst! It’s been 20 years since Myst became your world, and there’s never been a better time to revisit the Ages.
This newly refreshed and rebuilt version of realMyst is all-things Myst, but amazingly more real. You can explore anywhere, unfettered, and in realtime! Pick your own path through the forest on Myst Island.
Listen to the crickets as the sun sets in the Channelwood Age. Relax in the falling leaves in the Selenitic Age.
Spin around for a full panoramic tour of Sirrus’ throne room. Seek shelter from the thunderstorm in Stoneship Age. And If you’ve ever been overwhelmed by realtime 3D – too many controls or too much motion – realMyst has something for you!
You have the option to play the game just like the original Myst – with a simple point and click! Point where you want to go – click the mouse and you move through the world seamlessly to the new location. As a tribute to Myst’s 20th anniversary we’ve also added the original Myst images when you play in this Classic mode. Hold down the shift key and the original Myst image pops up, so you can see the difference and fondly remember that early Myst experience.
We’ve added plenty of new features to enhance and assist you on your journey. So whether you’re visiting Myst for the first time or you want to remember the first time – there’s never been a better reason to lose yourself and let the surrealistic Ages of realMyst become your world.
Features – All the original Myst Ages plus bonus Rime Age – Full Myst gameplay and interaction – Dynamic environments – rippling water, falling rain, waving trees & grass – Advanced graphic effects like bloom, blur, depth of field, etc.
We’ve got some great news for Mac folks! We’re going to have Mac versions of all. of the Anniversary Collection! We’ve teamed up with some really amazing people at who specialize in this sort of thing (and are also Myst fans), and they’ve been able to make macOS versions of all the games. from the Windows versions — no additional emulation software is required.
There are a few caveats, so keep reading First Caveat: Myst: Masterpiece Edition is giving us trouble. We’re working on it, but we’re not sure about it.
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Soooo we’ll be converting the original Myst to fill that hole. Second Caveat: The Mac versions will likely be digital downloads only. As much as we’d love to include them on the discs, because of the timing of the conversions, and the evolving MacOS platform, we can only promise digital downloads at this time. If you sign up for the Bookmaker tier or higher you will still receive discs, but our plan at this time is that they will contain the Windows versions. Third Caveat: Flux. Any of this could change - for the better or for the worse. Because there is testing going on right now, we want you to be aware that there is a little room for some wiggle, but we’re obviously feeling very secure about the Mac versions.
Kickstarter Live Hey, let’s try one of these things. Rand can make it on Thursday at 11:00am PDT (6:00pm UTC). How does that look for you? Another Milestone And while we were busy with everything around here, we managed to pass the 1.5 million dollar mark!
That is amazing! We’re looking forward to hitting the 10,000 backer mark soon, too! Thanks so much! The Myst 25 Team at Cyan. Myst and Riven have already been ported to iOS. Getting those to run on macOS natively again shouldn't be that big of a deal, since they're basically the same operating system with somewhat different UI layers. (Just upgrade the terrible framerates on the Riven videos.) RealMyst Masterpiece already runs natively on current Macs.
URU already runs in a wrapper. Not sure about End Of Ages. Exile and Revelation will most likely never run natively on current Macs, so wrapping them is more or less a given. I can live with all of this, but Myst and Riven not running natively would be a severe disappointment. Plus, there is Riven X, which (I believe) is currently languishing, and suffers from the fact that it's using QuickTime. If all else fails, it would be nice if some sort of accommodation could be reached with its developer.
@Eugene Sandulenko It would be good to have both options (scummvm and dosbox) in the release, if they are really going toward the cheap path. I would have agree if they were doing it with no money. That's what would take them in most cases (scummvm or wrappers are cheap solutions). They would have ported the games anyway.
But they did a crowdfunding for an anniversary edition and reached six times what they asked for, It would be good to see that money put to good use even for little improvements. I'm still hoping to see more languages in this release, a thing that doesn't even require tecnological feat.
At least I would like an answer on that. Anyway I believe other backers are right pointing out that for digital only users this campaign make little sense. For physical one it's a great thing as the book looks fantastic, unfortunately the content of the dvds will be a little sad. To me personally is a bit of a waste of a great opportunity to do good to those games. @Michele, of course, it is not always perfect. Particularly, Myst and Myst: Masterpiece edition was added to ScummVM over 2 years ago, and Riven 10 months ago.
That means that there was a healthy share of testing for both games. Currently, there are only a few known bugs in those reimplementations, mostly minor gfx glitches in some particular scenes, and those could be due to the bugs in original (like there is a bug which belongs to the CD release, but is not present in the DVD release of the original). The point here is what will be cheaper for a small house like Cyan. If somebody with source code needs to port the original engine to a modern platform, that work has already been done by ScummVM.
Fixing bugs if any is a much more trivial task than that. @Eugene Sandulenko I said the same thing. Still the result is not always close enough to the original. It will come closer eventually, but right now there are games that has better results by emulating the original system and playing with the original executable rather than using the ScummVM recreation of their engines. You are also right that the original could have issues or its own, and the scummvm implementation could be better, but even in that case for that reason it could fail in recreate the original experience as not everything has been taken into account.
My point is that sometimes is too early to use only ScummVM to faithfully reproduce one game, expecially for a commercial release. @Michele, your understanding of ScummVM is not quite correct.
The project reconstructs the original engines either by working with the original code or by reverse engineering. That is, only the parts which talk to the hardware and OS (e.g. Graphics, file loading, sound, mouse input) are different. The rest matches the executable pretty closely. Why there are bugs, is just because there could be mistakes in the process of reconstructing due to the size of the task, or because often the original engine is being rearchitectured in order to accommodate support for several games built on the same engine, or because the original was poorly written. Basically, the faithfulness of reproduction of the game engine logic with ScummVM is higher than the reproduction of Win32 API by the Wine project. ScummVM Team has to look into every corner of the original engine and understand how it works.
@Christian Page I probably don't understand game design (which is not a matter here as we are talking about coding). But I think that would be true for most of the backers here.
Maybe you too. It doesn't make your opinion any less important. You are also trying to warp my words or maybe I didn't explain myself enough. I didn't by any means implied that porting an old system game to a modern system is an easy task, nor that I would expect a full remaster of those games (even if I believe most backers here would really be happy if that was possible). My point here is that Cyan is in the best condition to put some love on those games as no one else would be in the same position of doing so.
If the original code exists, it would probably be in their hands, I believe, and even if that is not easily portable it could still provide some means to do that. I also mentioned original assets. If you really read what I wrote in the previous comments I also said that even if they cannot rerender the original assets, maybe they still have original uncompressed version of them that could be used to improve those games. Even having the full motion video without compression artifact could make the difference.
I was also interested in additional languages, they should at least know about that. Those are all speculation of possible things that could be done, and that's why I asked them for some details on what they are planning to do. That's why I don't understand why you are trying to get in the way of that, it would be good for everybody to know and it's a thing that for a backer is normal to do.
Unless they say if the have or not the original code or assets and to what extent they could work on them, we are without information. Given the fact that they are asking people for money and we are way beyond the original goal, it would be wise to have those information and it also what kickstarter suggest the authors to do. It would also benefit them and who knows if maybe there are some backers with the skill to also provides help. We won't get another chance for an anniversary edition of those games, it would be better to make this chance count. @Michele i dont think you understand game design remotely.
'when you have the original code' original code means nothing when the original code is near 100% incomparable. Myst was made in the time of 16bit operating systems.
Modern pcs struggle to be compatible with code written for 32bit systems as we are now in the 64bit era. 16bit games have drastically different code so original code means very little. I have an orginal laser disc. Does not mean i can just pop it into my laptop and it will play.
Further i dont even think they have the true original un cooked version of myst. Otherwise we would have gotten higher resolution version 10 years ago.
It would have been relatively easy back then to just re-render the game. But this was never done in any of the 20 versions that have come out. But even if they did it was made in a soft ware that was not ment for games. A software that has not been updated in 15 years. It would not be able to cook out a windows 10 version on its own. @Eugene Sandulenko In my opinion both options are not great when you have the original code and able to do a proper port. Wrappers and interpreter are good for preservation and for running on different platforms but they are not always able to replicate the original product in all its feature with the same results.
Also they are cheap solution that most users could employ themself and that doesn't require much money spent in developement. When we have the original developers with the original code, one should hope to accomplish something more to bring those classics to modern day in the best possibile condition. That I would gladly pledge for. @Matt Hargett Myst Masterpiece Edition and Riven are currently available for scummvm, GOG recently made an update. RealMyst Masterpiece Edition should be already on Unity, but I don't know the Mac situation so I may be wrong. Still think the original Myst was better, it's a pity it's improbable that they will be able to rerender the original assets at higher resolution. About Myst III it could run on residualVM (if you meant that) but at the moment it has no commercial release.
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I don't know if residualVM is ready for being used for commercial product(it report some minor glitches), but both residualVM and scummVM still has some issues and don't always replicate the original product like it did on the original system. It's not the best choice to use them when you still have the original code.
This is quite ironic. Employing a Win32 API reimplementation (Codeweavers, which is basically the Wine project) - acceptable.
Employing Mohawk engine reimplementation (ScummVM project) - not acceptable. ScummVM is so much easier to work with, it even has some original script bugs fixed. Compatibility is superb, and if there is a need for the custom menus or something like that, I am sure, the ScummVM Team will be willing to help with implementation. And the Linux port will come practically for free (you will still need to put couple of development hours into packaging). This is hard to understand, as the position which was voiced earlier on the FB was 'we do not condone tools like ScummVM'. @desertfern Most of the games are playable and for those that are not it is not clear what it will be done.
It could be a cheap solution that barely make the games work or a more thorough approach that improves the overall quality of the game. I don't think it's strange for backers to ask more details on the plan and understand if their money are going to finance something worth or not (again, if you don't pledge for the physical edition).
At least to some extent this kind of information should be available during the campaign. I backed because, as I suppose most of other backers do, I care for those games and I want to preserve them and make them fully enjoyable on modern system and future generation. It won't be cheaper than buying them later so that's not the reason. That's why I ask questions as this part seems to be a little neglected while the details on the physical edition are more deep.
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I want to understand if the goal could be simply be reached with compatibility tool or emulation/interpreter or if there is something more. Are we financing something that doesn't require that much money/effort and with barely noticeable results or there something else? For the physical edition I have a clear response. @Michele it's true that if you don't want the physical rewards then there's no practical reason to back at this point unless you just want to be part of it or think it might be cheaper than buying them later.
I don't get why you keep insisting that they are compatible with modern systems when they clearly are not. I can play uru and myst v properly on my windows 8 machine and my understanding is it doesn't work at all with 10. If you have some magic trick that makes them work and didn't think it was worthwhile, why did you back it? Did you back it like, a dollar, so you could comment? I fully expected to back this just knowing that it would exist in the world, and that would make me happy enough. But know hearing that Mac users will be fully supported makes me ecstatic!
The Myst series was first introduced to me by watching my dad play for hours trying to solve the puzzles. I'd watch him over his shoulder as he'd scribble D'ni markings into a notebook never sure what would eventually come in handy later. I still have those notebooks to this day, even though most of the scribblings (like any true genius) are either unreadable or unrelated to solving the puzzles. I'm sure he'd also love to know the cult of Myst is alive and well.